Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Bun B and Cash Money

In the early years of Cash Money Records, when Lil' Wayne's balls hadn't dropped yet and they still had Mannie Fresh beats, the only outside (non-NOLA and non-CMR) rapper that you would find on their releases was Bun B. I think there were one or two exceptions, such as Pimp C showing up on The Bloody City, but for the most part it was just Bun. Here's a look at the tracks that he guested on for various Cash Money-related acts, circa the late '90s and early '00s. All the tracks are produced by Mannie Fresh, naturally.

But, before I begin I should mention that I'm leaving out the tracks he did with Kilo G and PxMxWx, as I've I've already posted them in another Bun B feature post. Feel free to check out both tracks here.

B.G. f/ Bun B, Juvenile, Ms. Tee - "Retaliation" | zShare
from Chopper City (Cash Money, 1996)

B.G. f/ Bun B, Juvenile, Ms. Tee - "Retaliation" | zShare
from It's All On U, Vol. 1 (Cash Money, 1997)

B.G. f/ Bun B, Juvenile, Ms. Tee - "Retaliation" | zShare
from 5th Ward soundtrack (Fishbowl, 1997)

"Retaliation" was a track that first appeared on B.G.'s sophomore release Chopper City. The version that appears on that record is the original, as it's missing a backing vocal track by Ms. Tee (another early CMR signee, who put out two albums with the label: Havin' Thing$ and Female Baller) that was added to the subsequent versions.

The slightly remixed version with the added backing vocals would appear on B.G.'s 1997 album It's All On U, Vol. 1 and on the 5th Ward soundtrack. The 5th Ward version actually cuts out about two minutes out of the track though; no verses thankfully, just Mannie Fresh's extended instrumental outro—which may be just as bad, now that I think of it.

Hot Boyz f/ Bun B - "I'm Com'n" | zShare
from Get How U Live!! (Cash Money, 1997)

"I'm Com'n" was a track from the debut album of the Hot Boyz—B.G., Lil' Wayne, Juvenile, and Turk, for those who don't know. Unlike the previous track, Get It How U Live!! was the only place you could find "I'm Com'n" and it was never remixed or changed, as far as I know. I think this was the only time Bun collaborated with the entire Hot Boyz collective, and I'm pretty sure it's the only time he did anything with Turk.

The Hot Boyz went on to release two more albums before they ultimately broke up: Guerilla Warfare in 1999 and Let 'Em Burn in 2003. (Let 'Em Burn was supposed to come out much sooner than it eventually did, but it was constantly delayed due to the fact that B.G., Juvenile, and Turk all left the label in 2001.)

Big Tymers f/ Bun B - "Ballin'" | zShare
Big Tymers f/ Bun B, Lil' Wayne - "Playboy (Don't Hate Me)" | zShare
from How You Luv That, Vol. 1 and 2 (Cash Money, 1998)

How You Luv That was the debut album from the Big Tymers, a duo made up of Mannie Fresh—the in-house producer for Cash Money—and Baby—one half of the Williams brothers who founded the label, and later known as the Birdman daddy, brrr! (Ugh.) Their debut was later reissued as How You Luv That: Vol. 2, which was basically the same album, except with a remix to "Stun'n" tacked onto the end of it. Out of all of the rappers at Cash Money, Bun probably worked with the Big Tymers the most…

Big Tymers f/ Bun B, Lil' Wayne - "Southern Boy" | zShare
from Big Money Heavy Weight (Cash Money, 2003)

…he even appeared on Big Money Heavy Weight, which was their last album as a duo. Baby had embarked on a solo career the year before with the release of Birdman, and Mannie even put out his own solo album, The Mind of Mannie Fresh, in 2004. Like the Hot Boyz just a few years prior, the duo broke up when Mannie ended up leaving the label due to financial disputes (a sad, but recurring trend at CMR) a year after his debut's release. With his departure, he took his unique production skills with him, and I don't think Cash Money has been the same since.

Both Mannie and Baby have had Bun features on their solo albums, though his presence had lost some of its impact since each of those albums had tons of outside guests not limited to rappers from Louisiana or Cash Money. Bun showed up on the track "Ghetto Life" from Baby's second album Fast Money; "Mo Milly" from the more recent Priceless; and "How We Ride" from Mannie's solo debut.

Unfortunately, since those are songs from fairly recent albums, I don't want to risk getting the site shut down by posting them. You guys are resourceful, I'm sure you can find them if you look.

[UPDATE: I guess I was wrong about Bun never working with Turk again after "I'm Com'n." scjoha points out that Bun did actually do a song with him, though it was after he left Cash Money. It's called "Coming Up" and was on his 2005 album called Still a Hot Boy.

I also added a little more info to the Big Tymers section of the post, as it seemed a little bit lacking. Again, props to scjoha for pointing out those extra Bun features I neglected to mention.]


scjoha said...

Yeah, Bun B and Cash Money really have history, which continues until today. He was on the Mind of Mannie Fresh, Birdmans Fat Money and last year on Mo Milly (but posting that would probably cause the blog being shut down by google). and Bun guested on a Turk song - Calling Out in 2005. But I'm pretty sure that song was not released via Cash Money.
B.G. is my favorite Cash Money artist. I even like some of the songs on the Baby Gangsta's album True Story. The title track and Start N Tha Game are dope, hard banging joints - clearly in a bounce style, beat- and rapwise. But B.G. was really spitting fire, expanding the bounce formula - and he was only 14 then.

A great part of the appeal of your blog is to be reminded or for the most part becoming introduced to otherwise unknown southern acts, because of the fact that Bun and Pimp appeared on hundreds of different acts' songs. (And early Cash Money albums are actually better known than other albums and artists that you already posted). So it works as a great introduction to a lot of lesser known/forgotten acts.

Percy Mack said...

I was debating whether to include those late era Cash Money joints (especially that "How We Ride" track from Mannie's album) but I thought it would be better to focus on the early-to-mid era stuff. I think it's just that much more special when Bun is the only non-CMR/non-NOLA rapper showing up for a guest sixteen.

Well, that and I didn't want to get this blog shut down for posting tracks from albums that are only a few years old. Ha ha. Maybe I can feel comfortable posting those joints when a few more years pass by.

Tim said...

Did my download fuck up or does "Retaliation"(Its All On U version) skip starting at 51 seconds?

Percy Mack said...

Nope, it's actually skipping. Gimme a second, and I'll re-up a better version.

Percy Mack said...

Ok, should be fixed now. Sorry about that.

scjoha said...

Bun B's verse on I'm Com'n is one of his best of that era - he flows so easily on that smooth track. He managed to outshine the Hot Boys, who were master flowers themselves. wish there would have been more collabos. I heard a new Hot Boys album is in the works.

Percy Mack said...

Unless it has Mannie Fresh beats on it, I'm not sure I wanna hear it. Ha ha.

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